Comments on: Domaine Berthet-Bondet Cotes du Jura “Tradition” 2002 http://www.drinkswithnathan.com/2009/09/15/domaine-berthet-bondet-cotes-du-jura-tradition-2002/ Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:32:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Nathan http://www.drinkswithnathan.com/2009/09/15/domaine-berthet-bondet-cotes-du-jura-tradition-2002/comment-page-1/#comment-311 Nathan Fri, 28 May 2010 17:43:34 +0000 http://www.drinkswithnathan.com/?p=684#comment-311 Thanks for posting the update! The Montbourgeau Vin Jaune sounds great, but the Macle does indeed sound superlative. One of these days I'll get a chance to try one. Where did you find the Berthet-Bondet Chateau-Chalon?! Interestingly, when I was speaking with Neal Rosenthal a few weeks ago (he imports Domaine de Montbourgeau's wines) we talked both about their Vin Jaune and the comparison to Chateau-Chalon wines. He made a similar comparison as you mention, that in certain years the Chateau-Chalon has more richness than Vin Jaunes from outside the DOC, but that he felt overall the quality was very similar when you're comparing top-flight Vin Jaunes such as those from Jacques Puffeney and Domaine de Montbourgeau. He did single out the Macle Chateau-Chalons as potentially being on another plane though. Definitely keep the updates coming, this is great stuff! Thanks for posting the update! The Montbourgeau Vin Jaune sounds great, but the Macle does indeed sound superlative. One of these days I’ll get a chance to try one. Where did you find the Berthet-Bondet Chateau-Chalon?!

Interestingly, when I was speaking with Neal Rosenthal a few weeks ago (he imports Domaine de Montbourgeau’s wines) we talked both about their Vin Jaune and the comparison to Chateau-Chalon wines. He made a similar comparison as you mention, that in certain years the Chateau-Chalon has more richness than Vin Jaunes from outside the DOC, but that he felt overall the quality was very similar when you’re comparing top-flight Vin Jaunes such as those from Jacques Puffeney and Domaine de Montbourgeau. He did single out the Macle Chateau-Chalons as potentially being on another plane though.

Definitely keep the updates coming, this is great stuff!

]]> By: Bill Shube http://www.drinkswithnathan.com/2009/09/15/domaine-berthet-bondet-cotes-du-jura-tradition-2002/comment-page-1/#comment-295 Bill Shube Tue, 25 May 2010 20:09:48 +0000 http://www.drinkswithnathan.com/?p=684#comment-295 Nathan, We met a few months ago at Amherst Coffee's aged whiskey tasting, and we were discussing Chateau Chalon. Don't know if you recall, but I had tasted some of Macle's wines, including a 99 Cht Chalon, and was about to open an 00 Montbourgeau Vin Jaune, and you were curious to hear about the comparison. I finally got around to opening the Montbourgeau, and while it was delicious, Macle was just on another plane in comparison. Montbourgeau was totally correct and well-made--lots of hazelnut, some butterscotch and nutmeg on the nose, strong acidic backbone--but Macle had a richness to it and an intensely mineral character that Montbourgeau lacked. It was much more tightly wound, with incredible depth, and even better acidity, it will need time to unravel but should be pretty spectacular. It was so richly textured, oily and glycerous, that I almost didn't notice that it was oxidized. Even controlling for the vintages (99 was supposed to be a bit stronger than 00), the Chateau Chalon wins easily. I got my hands on a couple of bottles of 02 Berthet Bondet Cht Chalon, and plan on opening one a little later on this summer. I'm happy to keep you posted when I do. Thanks again for the whiskey tasting--great stuff! Nathan,
We met a few months ago at Amherst Coffee’s aged whiskey tasting, and we were discussing Chateau Chalon. Don’t know if you recall, but I had tasted some of Macle’s wines, including a 99 Cht Chalon, and was about to open an 00 Montbourgeau Vin Jaune, and you were curious to hear about the comparison. I finally got around to opening the Montbourgeau, and while it was delicious, Macle was just on another plane in comparison. Montbourgeau was totally correct and well-made–lots of hazelnut, some butterscotch and nutmeg on the nose, strong acidic backbone–but Macle had a richness to it and an intensely mineral character that Montbourgeau lacked. It was much more tightly wound, with incredible depth, and even better acidity, it will need time to unravel but should be pretty spectacular. It was so richly textured, oily and glycerous, that I almost didn’t notice that it was oxidized. Even controlling for the vintages (99 was supposed to be a bit stronger than 00), the Chateau Chalon wins easily. I got my hands on a couple of bottles of 02 Berthet Bondet Cht Chalon, and plan on opening one a little later on this summer. I’m happy to keep you posted when I do. Thanks again for the whiskey tasting–great stuff!

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